are killed by anti-animal legislation
The recent intervention by the Berger Blanc in Repentigny to force the woman to dispose of their animals, we deliver in the face, the futility of anti-animal laws in this province. We will not discuss here the fact that this lady cats were not sterilized and procreated in profusion. It will be another debate.
I got hold of an article from an American blog that makes a good point (see the text of the blog below). While everyone screams, the spca in mind, there are too many abandoned animals in Quebec, regulations limiting the number of animals per housing directly lead to confiscation and euthanasia of pets healthy , loved and who had a permanent home.
A regulation passed "no more than 2 dogs per household" and immediately, the third dog is doomed to euthanasia or abandonment on the street if it's a cat. Or if a neighbor complains about smells (my neighbor had already called police because she thought that my compost pile smelled of ammonia) from wherever they arise, the person who has cats will be inspected. Note that we do not protect the animals here, we regulate ... ..
should review all this regulation and replace it with the protection of animals involved in a controversy, and especially through education. What nobody is doing now.
We have seen in Rosemont. Because a tizoune went to city council to complain that there were too many stray cats in his alley, named Lavallee (who was not reelected, thankfully) moved quickly to pass a regulation prohibiting feed the cats. In his little head corrupt mayor, someone told him that if we stopped feeding the cats, they will disappear, the guy was probably the Berger Blanc.
In Quebec, there is no question of discussing the settlement before it passed. Elected municipal officials garrochent us in the face with the pound from behind. How many people must live underground and lie because they dared to save alley cats.
No, I'm not kind to politicians, policemen and the impound guys because I know how far their corruption when they attack can lead to a taxpayer. Especially if the tax payer does not know or can not give an envelope from time to time, these three levels that should protect the population will unite to seize, confiscate, move and kill the pets owned by the taxpayer and then send him an exorbitant bill for this. It a corrupt system in all events because "it relies on the law and regulations." Apologies if so but give carte blanche to all those who play with corrupt tax money.
Yes, we will have to unite and express our disagreement with each and every one of these regulations as and when they are brought to our attention. Starting with Laval where police and municipal employees are wasting time and public money to harass women who feed the cats and to destroy their huts.
With Killing animals homes - KC Dog Blog www.kcdogblog.com
In animal welfare, we talk an awful lot about how we can end the problem of having homeless pets in the US. There is often talk of things like "pet overpopulation", "shelter overcrowding" and that type of thing. Even one of the largest animal welfare organizations, Best Friends, hosts the No More Homeless Pets conference.
But maybe a more disturbing trend is the seemingly growing trend toward killing HOMED pets.
These are happy, healthy pets, that have loving, caring owners -- that for various reasons, we have decided to bring into our overcrowding shelters where they will likely be killed. These are animals, that have homes, that because of laws that we've created, we have decided to make homeless.
Recently, a Dallas couple, Mark and Lynn Gideon, found themselves in trouble with the Dallas law. Three years ago, Dallas passed a law limiting the number of pets people could have in their homes. The Gideons obtained a special permit to grandfather all of their existing pets -- 7 dogs (mostly Dachshund mixes) and 10 cats. In August, an animal control officer came to their home and wrote them two citations -- one for pet waste and one for odor of pet waste (it should be noted here that all of the neighbors have denied complaining about any odor problems stemming from the house).
By all accounts, the animals were all healthy, all were altered, licensed and up to date on their vaccinations. Because the Gideon's received two citations within a 12 month time period, authorities are saying that all of their pets must be removed from their home. Seventeen animals, all with a home and all seemingly well cared for, being asked to be removed and to join the ranks of the homeless animals in Dallas.
Earlier this week, news hit about two Boxer mixes in Brampton, Ontario that were confiscated from their owners and are on death row at the Brampton Animal Shelter. The dogs are believed by city authorities to resemble 'pit bulls' -- which are banned in Ontario under the Dog Owner Liability Act. By all accounts, the dogs are healthy, happy, well-socialized, non aggressive and are loved by their owners. Both are now "homeless" and could be killed in the shelter.
In 2006, Kansas City, MO passed a law that mandated that all 'pit bulls' had to be spayed or neutered. In 2009, four years after the ordinance passed, 270 dogs were confiscated from Kansas City area homes because they were unaltered pit bulls (more to come on KCMO in the next couple of weeks). The vast majority of these dogs were by animal control officer accounts happy, healthy dogs -- but because they were unaltered, they ended up at the city shelter. More than half of these dogs ended up dead in the shelter. Again, they were happy, healthy dogs, with homes, that the city made to be homeless, and then, dead.
In the book Redemption, Nathan Winograd talks a lot about the Dark Side of Mandatory Laws, and how even though they are often pushed by members of the animal welfare community, most end up leading to increased killing in city shelters.
"Legislation may be worded so that the result of non-compliance is the impoundment and death of the animal. Many jurisdictions have seen their impound rates increase following the passage of laws which give government agencies carte blanche to round up and kill animals. If a shelter has high rates of shelter killing, it makes no sense to support the passage of laws that give them greater power and more reasons to impound--and subsequently kill -- even more animals" -- Winograd in 'Redemption'
If we are to end the problem of homeless pets in this country, it is extremely important that we not only find homes for pets in our shelters, but it is also important that we makes ever effort necessary to keep happy, healthy, non-aggressive animals that have homes IN THEIR HOMES. This means not passing arbitrary pet limit laws, not passing breed specific laws that remove pets from homes based on how they look, not based on behavior, and not pass mandatory spay/neuter laws that pull animals out of homes for not being altered so they end up in the shelter.
Ending the problem with homeless pets in this country begins with not creating homeless pets unnecessarily. It is one thing to struggle with killing homeless animals because of shelter overcrowding, it is quite another to kill ones that actually have homes, for no reason at all.
Monday, February 8, 2010
Friday, February 5, 2010
Connecting Hard Drive To Sony Tv
Wild Cats!
Folles des chats ? ERREUR !!!
Compatissantes, passionnées, loving animals, YES. This is also why they can not bear to see them suffer the winter and try to save them.
our TV documentary that Quebec introduced last Sunday just throw a stone into the pond of the rescue of stray cats in Montreal and the region. Not only a representative of the agency that originated the documentary leaves imply that cats are living longer outside and inside, which is false, but it condemns the lifeguard that keep them in their home until they find an adoptive family. Unacceptable! According
I think this documentary was made by the spca Toronto to denounce women who keep several cats in the guise deranged and unclean. The purpose of the documentary is unclear and the role of women who participated in the shooting leaves me wondering. Why expose himself to the obvious criticism of the spca and viewers? Many women and men have several cats and love them deeply without being disturbed and not having a spouse.
You think spcas are there to help these women and their cats? Think again. I could tell you a lot about it. Especially when their inspectors can arrive at dawn in a person who has several cats hoping to find dirt and odors before she had time to clean. If they find a cat sick or even died during the night, the ecstasy. What beautiful pictures!
The spca is not there to help the lifeguard or cats. Jobs are paid at the spca and especially well paid. It is money that animal pays the salaries of inspectors to go harass the sly. Either they are inherently evil or they are trying to justify their job. However, they are selective, they will not harass people who have puppy mills.
is the reason why the only man interviewed in the documentary, with his uniform badges and the word "agent" written in large letters across the chest, said with authority that it would be better to kill the cats than the kept in a shelter or foster care. That's what he can do because there were trained. Me, I'm not sure that's what the cat prefers.
But I must tell you here, inspectors and agents "of the SPCA have a culture somewhat different from us. First, they do not like animals and it shows. They feel very stronger when they come in a woman who has several cats before she had time to clean up the mess of the night to take pictures and "interpret" each and every piece of furniture moved litter not emptied. They can then blame the poor lady to cruelty to animals and treat collector and above all, kill all cats. All his money goes to help the cats so she has no money to defend himself and he will suffer the worst treatment. She will not have a coat for Armani to appear in court. As it is all about image and perceptions, a judge will always side with the SPCA.
When we know that with all staff, volunteers and the veterinarian of record, the Montreal SPCA can not even prevent an outbreak of rhino and kill all the kittens on the spot and those who return, the inspectors have no lesson to the lady who love them and see to their welfare with the means at hand. And that for them to live in groups, she had to pay out of pocket all sterilizations. This is not the SPCA. Barnotti time, unsterilized cats went under the only promise of the adopter.
The main purpose of spcas (initially I thought there was only today but Barnotti I add one that sticks to the SPCA) is to destroy the reputation of all those rescuers who do a magnificent job in this province. It's the dirty, demeaning their rescues, copy their ideas for activities detrimental to fundraising and even ownership of their spokespersons. In addition, both the spcas pounds, if they are lucky to have an odor complaint from a neighbor who will not interfere with his business, there is nothing they will not be disturbing the lady who feeds the cats.
The documentary that we have seen plays exactly this role. For girls who have these cats were collected in Street, have cared for, is sterilized and brought safely to the inside, most awaiting adoption. You and I know how difficult it is to adopt an adult cat.
It is a myth that feral cats (feral) can not live in a family as suggested by the agent. Plenty of examples come to mind of abandoned cats who feared humans and are now perfectly adjusted and happy.
However, it is not sure they would all live in a shelter especially those of two or three generations born in the street. This is the reason why I agree methods on Alley Cat Allies cat colonies. Once sterilized, well settled and fed, wild cats can live their lives without the intervention of cats from the SPCA or the pound who think only eliminate them.
Comment Lise wise: this is not these women should be judged, they should be assisted in their tasks. They are those who abandon cats who are guilty but again, the body will never go after them and punish them for putting an animal in danger. Yet the Criminal Code clearly states that this is a criminal act.
Comment Ginette: I watched the video, it is true what he says feral cats can be socialized, I picked up a lot in my life and I still ended up winning their hearts. They need to trust and care that is good ......... Comment by Jessica
: Personally, I turned off the TV after about 15 min. I thought he was exaggerating and bcp generalized, I take my cats for my babies but not c as far as I'm super lonely as a point of not having a spouse. I also found it unfortunate that shows an old lady who was full of stray cats in his house, I thought it was not very clean air if you will, yet this is not the case everywhere .... C yes really crazy name for whom they want to sell: - @, for cons I found it sad for the cats that are strays, it makes me bcp trouble every time I see
CONCLUSION:
For 40 years I denounce the actions of the SPCA in Montreal, but my reading led me to understand that it is a culture that exists in all societies and humanitarian who would need a big change for first help animals and also justify the existence of these organizations that scrape all donations without the aid work and rescue animals.
The only hope as stray animals is the grouping of all the rescuers in order to create a force and participate in educating the next generation of humans not to abandon their cats.
Folles des chats ? ERREUR !!!
Compatissantes, passionnées, loving animals, YES. This is also why they can not bear to see them suffer the winter and try to save them.
our TV documentary that Quebec introduced last Sunday just throw a stone into the pond of the rescue of stray cats in Montreal and the region. Not only a representative of the agency that originated the documentary leaves imply that cats are living longer outside and inside, which is false, but it condemns the lifeguard that keep them in their home until they find an adoptive family. Unacceptable! According
I think this documentary was made by the spca Toronto to denounce women who keep several cats in the guise deranged and unclean. The purpose of the documentary is unclear and the role of women who participated in the shooting leaves me wondering. Why expose himself to the obvious criticism of the spca and viewers? Many women and men have several cats and love them deeply without being disturbed and not having a spouse.
You think spcas are there to help these women and their cats? Think again. I could tell you a lot about it. Especially when their inspectors can arrive at dawn in a person who has several cats hoping to find dirt and odors before she had time to clean. If they find a cat sick or even died during the night, the ecstasy. What beautiful pictures!
The spca is not there to help the lifeguard or cats. Jobs are paid at the spca and especially well paid. It is money that animal pays the salaries of inspectors to go harass the sly. Either they are inherently evil or they are trying to justify their job. However, they are selective, they will not harass people who have puppy mills.
is the reason why the only man interviewed in the documentary, with his uniform badges and the word "agent" written in large letters across the chest, said with authority that it would be better to kill the cats than the kept in a shelter or foster care. That's what he can do because there were trained. Me, I'm not sure that's what the cat prefers.
But I must tell you here, inspectors and agents "of the SPCA have a culture somewhat different from us. First, they do not like animals and it shows. They feel very stronger when they come in a woman who has several cats before she had time to clean up the mess of the night to take pictures and "interpret" each and every piece of furniture moved litter not emptied. They can then blame the poor lady to cruelty to animals and treat collector and above all, kill all cats. All his money goes to help the cats so she has no money to defend himself and he will suffer the worst treatment. She will not have a coat for Armani to appear in court. As it is all about image and perceptions, a judge will always side with the SPCA.
When we know that with all staff, volunteers and the veterinarian of record, the Montreal SPCA can not even prevent an outbreak of rhino and kill all the kittens on the spot and those who return, the inspectors have no lesson to the lady who love them and see to their welfare with the means at hand. And that for them to live in groups, she had to pay out of pocket all sterilizations. This is not the SPCA. Barnotti time, unsterilized cats went under the only promise of the adopter.
The main purpose of spcas (initially I thought there was only today but Barnotti I add one that sticks to the SPCA) is to destroy the reputation of all those rescuers who do a magnificent job in this province. It's the dirty, demeaning their rescues, copy their ideas for activities detrimental to fundraising and even ownership of their spokespersons. In addition, both the spcas pounds, if they are lucky to have an odor complaint from a neighbor who will not interfere with his business, there is nothing they will not be disturbing the lady who feeds the cats.
The documentary that we have seen plays exactly this role. For girls who have these cats were collected in Street, have cared for, is sterilized and brought safely to the inside, most awaiting adoption. You and I know how difficult it is to adopt an adult cat.
It is a myth that feral cats (feral) can not live in a family as suggested by the agent. Plenty of examples come to mind of abandoned cats who feared humans and are now perfectly adjusted and happy.
However, it is not sure they would all live in a shelter especially those of two or three generations born in the street. This is the reason why I agree methods on Alley Cat Allies cat colonies. Once sterilized, well settled and fed, wild cats can live their lives without the intervention of cats from the SPCA or the pound who think only eliminate them.
Comment Lise wise: this is not these women should be judged, they should be assisted in their tasks. They are those who abandon cats who are guilty but again, the body will never go after them and punish them for putting an animal in danger. Yet the Criminal Code clearly states that this is a criminal act.
Comment Ginette: I watched the video, it is true what he says feral cats can be socialized, I picked up a lot in my life and I still ended up winning their hearts. They need to trust and care that is good ......... Comment by Jessica
: Personally, I turned off the TV after about 15 min. I thought he was exaggerating and bcp generalized, I take my cats for my babies but not c as far as I'm super lonely as a point of not having a spouse. I also found it unfortunate that shows an old lady who was full of stray cats in his house, I thought it was not very clean air if you will, yet this is not the case everywhere .... C yes really crazy name for whom they want to sell: - @, for cons I found it sad for the cats that are strays, it makes me bcp trouble every time I see
CONCLUSION:
For 40 years I denounce the actions of the SPCA in Montreal, but my reading led me to understand that it is a culture that exists in all societies and humanitarian who would need a big change for first help animals and also justify the existence of these organizations that scrape all donations without the aid work and rescue animals.
The only hope as stray animals is the grouping of all the rescuers in order to create a force and participate in educating the next generation of humans not to abandon their cats.
Tuesday, January 19, 2010
Ideas For Motor Bike Airbrushing
When a tradition is cruel, we must abandon vitement
My heart fails me whenever I read quelqu'article a festival in honor of a saint who always end cruelty to animals.
Inuit, Innu, etc.. use the subterfuge of "tradition" to continue to massacre seal and keep out of sled dogs in winter even if they are walking Now snowmobile.
But do not think that it only happens elsewhere. The Quebec Iles-de-la-Madeleine, hunters, which are subsidized by plank, spend their lives on welfare and unemployment insurance, but trying to convince us that because of tradition, they need massacre of seals on the ice. They are liars
more. They try to convince us that these are the seals that have eaten the cod catches have dropped as well. Error: this is the overfishing of their gang and others from Asia and elsewhere to clear our ocean with their nets that drag the bottom and pick up EVERYTHING.
When passing under the guise of tradition heinous and cruel acts, whether against children or animals, it is necessary that society wakes up and complains otherwise it becomes an accomplice. These practices may have been accepted in the Middle Ages, but with our means of communication, we know better. It promises to be a civilized society but is allowed to perpetuate these acts of cowardice or hypocrisy.
Hunters Islands have found receptive ears on the Ottawa side of the poor and money is now used to promote the fur and flesh of seals in Europe that does Yet none of it. That the Chinese
accept our dirty fur, this is not a reference, we know how they flay alive cats and dogs to remove their skin. Of no heart as they say. Is it necessary to offer them something as horrible as our seal hunt as an example? They know how to be cruel by themselves.
If Quebec and Canada want to set an example for developing countries, these hunters must drop their cruelty, their false pretenses and show the world a civilized face of compassionate people. Otherwise, you have nothing to teach anyone. It is at ashamed to be Canadian!
I find myself having no compassion for hunters who have accidents, whose ship is trapped in the ice or who do not return home. But I put them on the same footing as rippers dolphin and whale hunters. And those do not impress me either and hypocrisy gives me high heart.
My heart fails me whenever I read quelqu'article a festival in honor of a saint who always end cruelty to animals.
Inuit, Innu, etc.. use the subterfuge of "tradition" to continue to massacre seal and keep out of sled dogs in winter even if they are walking Now snowmobile.
But do not think that it only happens elsewhere. The Quebec Iles-de-la-Madeleine, hunters, which are subsidized by plank, spend their lives on welfare and unemployment insurance, but trying to convince us that because of tradition, they need massacre of seals on the ice. They are liars
more. They try to convince us that these are the seals that have eaten the cod catches have dropped as well. Error: this is the overfishing of their gang and others from Asia and elsewhere to clear our ocean with their nets that drag the bottom and pick up EVERYTHING.
When passing under the guise of tradition heinous and cruel acts, whether against children or animals, it is necessary that society wakes up and complains otherwise it becomes an accomplice. These practices may have been accepted in the Middle Ages, but with our means of communication, we know better. It promises to be a civilized society but is allowed to perpetuate these acts of cowardice or hypocrisy.
Hunters Islands have found receptive ears on the Ottawa side of the poor and money is now used to promote the fur and flesh of seals in Europe that does Yet none of it. That the Chinese
accept our dirty fur, this is not a reference, we know how they flay alive cats and dogs to remove their skin. Of no heart as they say. Is it necessary to offer them something as horrible as our seal hunt as an example? They know how to be cruel by themselves.
If Quebec and Canada want to set an example for developing countries, these hunters must drop their cruelty, their false pretenses and show the world a civilized face of compassionate people. Otherwise, you have nothing to teach anyone. It is at ashamed to be Canadian!
I find myself having no compassion for hunters who have accidents, whose ship is trapped in the ice or who do not return home. But I put them on the same footing as rippers dolphin and whale hunters. And those do not impress me either and hypocrisy gives me high heart.
Saturday, January 2, 2010
Diference Between Regular Condoms And Magnum
Is there still a QLP in Mtl?
The commentary "Confused" after my last article on review (see link at right) still leaves us understand many people in the population of Quebec take their wishes for reality. She wonders why we bring not endangered cats at the SPCA.
Our experience has shown that street cats are executed at the spca of mtl and not put up for adoption if they are bad they will not be treated but killed. Only girls who really love cats know how to care for with diligence and tact, knowing that if the cat survived the hell of our winters, that he would not die. Especially not in the hands of humans who had been in this situation. So we avoid putting them in worse situations than the alley where they lived.
Another obvious example in The Gazette of December 26, 2009 we confirms the ineffectiveness of any so-called SPCA mtl. Following a complaint that a watchdog SERCA spent Christmas alone in a building under renovation in the cold and fear, probably no food either, Christina Reusch, a supervisor with the spca did answer the reporter (who has avoided signing his article):
"The posting of guard dogs is Not Illegal, Adding" Unfortunately by There Is Nothing We Can Do. "She Said SERCA Security has a good reputation for Giving food, water and shelter to animals THEY The Guard employee.
I have news for her. Serca bought the watchdogs of Lamarche & Pinard just before the company goes bankrupt. It was confirmed that these dogs had been abused, malnourished and mostly it was the confirmation of their origin. Do Serca maintains them since then? I inquire. But a dog that is hungry and who sees the world pass on the sidewalk going to shout his dismay at being thus confined alone in a building cool and moist, without human presence. That's why he barks. The spca
never acted on the complaint and especially his "inspectors" were not even see if the animal was food. They left him yapping all the holidays. It unacceptable. How
activist feed the dogs in the scrap yard and golf car sales when they can spend their food. Often times, these dogs are in poorly insulated shacks with no food or water where they die alone in the cold or hot weather. These are dogs Serca because there are only such company that rents watchdogs. Dogs are skinny, emaciated and starving. Confirms that our witness to be aggressive, we avoid the feed. Then the supervisor Rusch, where she took her information?
Where do these watchdogs? Headland, course. What are pit bulls that nobody wants because they were ill-bred and became uncontrollable, Rottweilers or German shepherds became too big. The company's starving and leads to aggression. Suddenly, the beautiful rott who lived on the couch is found beaten without reason. He no longer understands why humans are so but still tries to obey. More awards, more than kisses, that shots flying everywhere.
However, the SPCA and its inspectors know how it goes but there was NEVER home inspection or home Serca Lamarche & Pinard elsewhere. During months, when she was Acting Director, Alana Devine told us "my hands are tied" each time he made a complaint. What answer? It saves not a dog that kind of response. It only perpetuates the cruelty of daily-ass-holes who make their money on the backs of animals: the animal mafia.
What happens to the SPCA mtl is still and always a secret curse. Volunteers who know a little too are flushed, the animals continue to die. Fortunately there are shelters that can take the barnyard animals and pigs, at least those are saved. Even since the from Barnotti and elect a new board, so we were promised transparency, well we can forget, there was never any transparency. These people are paid large salaries with money from animals, but not accountable for their actions to anyone, including members who elected them, much less the animals they no longer protect.
The commentary "Confused" after my last article on review (see link at right) still leaves us understand many people in the population of Quebec take their wishes for reality. She wonders why we bring not endangered cats at the SPCA.
Our experience has shown that street cats are executed at the spca of mtl and not put up for adoption if they are bad they will not be treated but killed. Only girls who really love cats know how to care for with diligence and tact, knowing that if the cat survived the hell of our winters, that he would not die. Especially not in the hands of humans who had been in this situation. So we avoid putting them in worse situations than the alley where they lived.
Another obvious example in The Gazette of December 26, 2009 we confirms the ineffectiveness of any so-called SPCA mtl. Following a complaint that a watchdog SERCA spent Christmas alone in a building under renovation in the cold and fear, probably no food either, Christina Reusch, a supervisor with the spca did answer the reporter (who has avoided signing his article):
"The posting of guard dogs is Not Illegal, Adding" Unfortunately by There Is Nothing We Can Do. "She Said SERCA Security has a good reputation for Giving food, water and shelter to animals THEY The Guard employee.
I have news for her. Serca bought the watchdogs of Lamarche & Pinard just before the company goes bankrupt. It was confirmed that these dogs had been abused, malnourished and mostly it was the confirmation of their origin. Do Serca maintains them since then? I inquire. But a dog that is hungry and who sees the world pass on the sidewalk going to shout his dismay at being thus confined alone in a building cool and moist, without human presence. That's why he barks. The spca
never acted on the complaint and especially his "inspectors" were not even see if the animal was food. They left him yapping all the holidays. It unacceptable. How
activist feed the dogs in the scrap yard and golf car sales when they can spend their food. Often times, these dogs are in poorly insulated shacks with no food or water where they die alone in the cold or hot weather. These are dogs Serca because there are only such company that rents watchdogs. Dogs are skinny, emaciated and starving. Confirms that our witness to be aggressive, we avoid the feed. Then the supervisor Rusch, where she took her information?
Where do these watchdogs? Headland, course. What are pit bulls that nobody wants because they were ill-bred and became uncontrollable, Rottweilers or German shepherds became too big. The company's starving and leads to aggression. Suddenly, the beautiful rott who lived on the couch is found beaten without reason. He no longer understands why humans are so but still tries to obey. More awards, more than kisses, that shots flying everywhere.
However, the SPCA and its inspectors know how it goes but there was NEVER home inspection or home Serca Lamarche & Pinard elsewhere. During months, when she was Acting Director, Alana Devine told us "my hands are tied" each time he made a complaint. What answer? It saves not a dog that kind of response. It only perpetuates the cruelty of daily-ass-holes who make their money on the backs of animals: the animal mafia.
What happens to the SPCA mtl is still and always a secret curse. Volunteers who know a little too are flushed, the animals continue to die. Fortunately there are shelters that can take the barnyard animals and pigs, at least those are saved. Even since the from Barnotti and elect a new board, so we were promised transparency, well we can forget, there was never any transparency. These people are paid large salaries with money from animals, but not accountable for their actions to anyone, including members who elected them, much less the animals they no longer protect.
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